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vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

HAT
Hi.
I'm testing samba 4.2.0 vfs_fruit on Fedora Server 22-alpha.
I confirmed that ResourceFork and FinderInfo are compatible with
Netatalk 3.1.7. However, EAs are incompatible.
The character ":" in EA name is wrong.
The EAs are not seen from clients.

smb.conf:
    [test2]
    path = /export/test2
    writable = yes
    vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
    fruit:locking = netatalk
    streams_xattr:prefix = user.
    streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
    kernel oplocks = no

On OS X:
    $ cd ~/test
    $ xattr ICONandEA.txt
    com.apple.FinderInfo
    com.apple.ResourceFork
    com.apple.TextEncoding
    com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment

Copy from OS X to Fedora via Netatalk.
On Fedora:
    $ cd /export/test2
    $ ls -a1
    ./
    ../
    .DS_Store
    ._ICONandEA.txt
    ICONandEA.txt
    $ getfattr ICONandEA.txt
    # file: ICONandEA.txt
    user.com.apple.TextEncoding
    user.com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment
    user.org.netatalk.Metadata

Copy from OS X to Fedora via Samba.
On Fedora:
    $ cd /export/test2
    $ ls -a
    ./
    ../
    .DS_Store
    ._ICONandEA.txt
    ICONandEA.txt
    $ getfattr ICONandEA.txt
    # file: ICONandEA.txt
    user.com.apple.TextEncoding
    user.com.apple.metadata kMDItemFinderComment
    user.org.netatalk.Metadata

The character ":" is wrong.

On OS X via Samba:
    $ cd /Volumes/test2
    $ xattr ICONandEA.txt
    com.apple.FinderInfo
    com.apple.ResourceFork

The EAs are not seen from clients.

How can I handle EAs?

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

Ralph Böhme-3
Hi HAT!

Nice to meet you over here... ;)

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:30:45PM +0900, HAT wrote:

> Hi.
> I'm testing samba 4.2.0 vfs_fruit on Fedora Server 22-alpha.
> I confirmed that ResourceFork and FinderInfo are compatible with
> Netatalk 3.1.7. However, EAs are incompatible.
> The character ":" in EA name is wrong.
> The EAs are not seen from clients.
>
> smb.conf:
>     [test2]
>     path = /export/test2
>     writable = yes
>     vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
>     fruit:locking = netatalk
>     streams_xattr:prefix = user.
>     streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
>     kernel oplocks = no
>
> On OS X:
>     $ cd ~/test
>     $ xattr ICONandEA.txt
>     com.apple.FinderInfo
>     com.apple.ResourceFork
>     com.apple.TextEncoding
>     com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment
>
> Copy from OS X to Fedora via Netatalk.
> On Fedora:
>     $ cd /export/test2
>     $ ls -a1
>     ./
>     ../
>     .DS_Store
>     ._ICONandEA.txt
>     ICONandEA.txt
>     $ getfattr ICONandEA.txt
>     # file: ICONandEA.txt
>     user.com.apple.TextEncoding
>     user.com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment
>     user.org.netatalk.Metadata
>
> Copy from OS X to Fedora via Samba.
> On Fedora:
>     $ cd /export/test2
>     $ ls -a
>     ./
>     ../
>     .DS_Store
>     ._ICONandEA.txt
>     ICONandEA.txt
>     $ getfattr ICONandEA.txt
>     # file: ICONandEA.txt
>     user.com.apple.TextEncoding
>     user.com.apple.metadata kMDItemFinderComment
>     user.org.netatalk.Metadata
>
> The character ":" is wrong.
>
> On OS X via Samba:
>     $ cd /Volumes/test2
>     $ xattr ICONandEA.txt
>     com.apple.FinderInfo
>     com.apple.ResourceFork
>
> The EAs are not seen from clients.
>
> How can I handle EAs?

not sure, but the colon in xattr names is probably not handled
correctly at this point. Can you please file a bugreport so we can
track this?

-Ralph

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

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> not sure, but the colon in xattr names is probably not handled
> correctly at this point. Can you please file a bugreport so we can
> track this?

Bug 11162
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11162

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

HAT
Hi,

>> not sure, but the colon in xattr names is probably not handled
>> correctly at this point. Can you please file a bugreport so we can
>> track this?
>
> Bug 11162
> https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11162

I tested samba 4.3.1 on Fedora 23 and rawhide.
The colon problem is not corrected yet.

$ getfattr Mew.txt
# file: Mew.txt
user.com.apple.TextEncoding
user.com.apple.metadatakMDItemFinderComment


$ rpm -qi samba
Name        : samba
Epoch       : 2
Version     : 4.3.1
Release     : 3.fc23
Architecture: x86_64
Install Date: Wed Nov 25 01:34:40 2015
Group       : System Environment/Daemons
Size        : 1900499
License     : GPLv3+ and LGPLv3+
Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Thu Nov 19 08:38:33 2015, Key ID 32474cf834ec9cba
Source RPM  : samba-4.3.1-3.fc23.src.rpm
Build Date  : Wed Nov 18 20:29:52 2015
Build Host  : buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Relocations : (not relocatable)
Packager    : Fedora Project
Vendor      : Fedora Project
URL         : http://www.samba.org/
Summary     : Server and Client software to interoperate with Windows machines
Description :
Samba is the standard Windows interoperability suite of programs for Linux and Unix.


smb.conf:
        vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
        fruit:locking = netatalk
        streams_xattr:prefix = user.
        streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
        kernel oplocks = No


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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

Reindl Harald


Am 17.12.2015 um 17:14 schrieb HAT:

>>> not sure, but the colon in xattr names is probably not handled
>>> correctly at this point. Can you please file a bugreport so we can
>>> track this?
>>
>> Bug 11162
>> https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11162
>
> I tested samba 4.3.1 on Fedora 23 and rawhide.
> The colon problem is not corrected yet.
>
> $ getfattr Mew.txt
> # file: Mew.txt
> user.com.apple.TextEncoding
> user.com.apple.metadatakMDItemFinderComment
>
> smb.conf:
>          vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
>          fruit:locking = netatalk
>          streams_xattr:prefix = user.
>          streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
>          kernel oplocks = No
ouch - sounds we should wait with replace netatalk completly with samba
without losing any attributes and ressource forks


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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

Ralph Böhme-3
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 01:14:25AM +0900, HAT wrote:

> Hi,
>
> >> not sure, but the colon in xattr names is probably not handled
> >> correctly at this point. Can you please file a bugreport so we can
> >> track this?
> >
> > Bug 11162
> > https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11162
>
> I tested samba 4.3.1 on Fedora 23 and rawhide.
> The colon problem is not corrected yet.
>
> $ getfattr Mew.txt
> # file: Mew.txt
> user.com.apple.TextEncoding
> user.com.apple.metadatakMDItemFinderComment
>
>
> $ rpm -qi samba
> Name        : samba
> Epoch       : 2
> Version     : 4.3.1
> Release     : 3.fc23
> Architecture: x86_64
> Install Date: Wed Nov 25 01:34:40 2015
> Group       : System Environment/Daemons
> Size        : 1900499
> License     : GPLv3+ and LGPLv3+
> Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Thu Nov 19 08:38:33 2015, Key ID 32474cf834ec9cba
> Source RPM  : samba-4.3.1-3.fc23.src.rpm
> Build Date  : Wed Nov 18 20:29:52 2015
> Build Host  : buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org
> Relocations : (not relocatable)
> Packager    : Fedora Project
> Vendor      : Fedora Project
> URL         : http://www.samba.org/
> Summary     : Server and Client software to interoperate with Windows machines
> Description :
> Samba is the standard Windows interoperability suite of programs for Linux and Unix.
>
>
> smb.conf:
>         vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
>         fruit:locking = netatalk
>         streams_xattr:prefix = user.
>         streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
>         kernel oplocks = No

iirc you need fruit:encoding = native

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

HAT
Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:05:33 +0100, Ralph Boehme <[hidden email]>:
> iirc you need fruit:encoding = native

Solved. Thanks!
I'm looking forward to netatalk 3.1.8.

$ getfattr Mew.txt
# file: Mew.txt
user.com.apple.TextEncoding
user.com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment

smb.conf:
        vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
        fruit:locking = netatalk
        fruit:encoding = native
        streams_xattr:prefix = user.
        streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
        kernel oplocks = No

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

Ralph Böhme-3
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 02:20:54AM +0900, HAT wrote:

> Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:05:33 +0100, Ralph Boehme <[hidden email]>:
> > iirc you need fruit:encoding = native
>
> Solved. Thanks!
> I'm looking forward to netatalk 3.1.8.
>
> $ getfattr Mew.txt
> # file: Mew.txt
> user.com.apple.TextEncoding
> user.com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment
>
> smb.conf:
>         vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
>         fruit:locking = netatalk
>         fruit:encoding = native
>         streams_xattr:prefix = user.
>         streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no

ahhhhhhh, so many options. Sorry about that! :(

Cheerio!
-slow

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vfs_fruit: mangled if last char is dot

HAT
vfs_fruit and Netatalk are still incompatible when last char is dot.

On OS X:

$ cd /Volumes/NetatalkVol/
$ ls
abc.txt.

$ cd /Volumes/SambaVol/
$ ls
AL3JQG~9


vfs_fruit should convert last dot to 0xf029.
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q117258/>

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Re: vfs_fruit: mangled if last char is dot

Ralph Böhme-3
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 02:57:44AM +0900, HAT wrote:

> vfs_fruit and Netatalk are still incompatible when last char is dot.
>
> On OS X:
>
> $ cd /Volumes/NetatalkVol/
> $ ls
> abc.txt.
>
> $ cd /Volumes/SambaVol/
> $ ls
> AL3JQG~9
>
>
> vfs_fruit should convert last dot to 0xf029.
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q117258/>

https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11206

Cheerio!
-slow

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

HAT
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Hi,
I'm testing samba 4.3.3 vfs_fruit on Fedora rawhide.

The EAs are not seen from clients yet.

smb.conf:
      path = /export/test1/
      writable = yes
      vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
      fruit:locking = netatalk
      fruit:encoding = native
      streams_xattr:prefix = user.
      streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no

On OS X:
    $ cd ~/test
    $ xattr ICONandEA.txt
    com.apple.FinderInfo
    com.apple.ResourceFork
    com.apple.TextEncoding
    com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment

Copy from OS X to Fedora via Samba.
On Fedora:
    $ cd /export/test1
    $ ls -a
    ./
    ../
    .DS_Store
    ._ICONandEA.txt
    ICONandEA.txt
    $ getfattr ICONandEA.txt
    # file: ICONandEA.txt
    user.com.apple.TextEncoding
    user.com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment
    user.org.netatalk.Metadata

On OS X via Samba:
    $ cd /Volumes/test1
    $ xattr ICONandEA.txt
    com.apple.FinderInfo
    com.apple.ResourceFork

The EAs are not seen from clients.

How can I handle EAs?

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

Rowland penny-7
On 26/12/15 17:08, HAT wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm testing samba 4.3.3 vfs_fruit on Fedora rawhide.
>
> The EAs are not seen from clients yet.
>
> smb.conf:
>        path = /export/test1/
>        writable = yes
>        vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
>        fruit:locking = netatalk
>        fruit:encoding = native
>        streams_xattr:prefix = user.
>        streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no

Is that your entire smb.conf or just the share ?

Rowland

>
> On OS X:
>      $ cd ~/test
>      $ xattr ICONandEA.txt
>      com.apple.FinderInfo
>      com.apple.ResourceFork
>      com.apple.TextEncoding
>      com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment
>
> Copy from OS X to Fedora via Samba.
> On Fedora:
>      $ cd /export/test1
>      $ ls -a
>      ./
>      ../
>      .DS_Store
>      ._ICONandEA.txt
>      ICONandEA.txt
>      $ getfattr ICONandEA.txt
>      # file: ICONandEA.txt
>      user.com.apple.TextEncoding
>      user.com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment
>      user.org.netatalk.Metadata
>
> On OS X via Samba:
>      $ cd /Volumes/test1
>      $ xattr ICONandEA.txt
>      com.apple.FinderInfo
>      com.apple.ResourceFork
>
> The EAs are not seen from clients.
>
> How can I handle EAs?
>


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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

HAT
Sat, 26 Dec 2015 17:22:56 +0000, Rowland penny <[hidden email]>:

> On 26/12/15 17:08, HAT wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm testing samba 4.3.3 vfs_fruit on Fedora rawhide.
>>
>> The EAs are not seen from clients yet.
>>
>> smb.conf:
>>        path = /export/test1/
>>        writable = yes
>>        vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
>>        fruit:locking = netatalk
>>        fruit:encoding = native
>>        streams_xattr:prefix = user.
>>        streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
>
> Is that your entire smb.conf or just the share ?

$ /etc/samba# cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | grep -v \; | grep -v \# | grep -v ^$
[global]
        workgroup = LOCALNET
        server string = %h
        dos charset = CP932
        log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
        max log size = 50
        security = user
        passdb backend = smbpasswd
        load printers = yes
        cups options = raw
[Test 1]
      path = /export/test1/
      writable = yes
      vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
      fruit:locking = netatalk
      fruit:encoding = native
      streams_xattr:prefix = user.
      streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

Ralph Böhme-3
On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 02:33:10AM +0900, HAT wrote:

> Sat, 26 Dec 2015 17:22:56 +0000, Rowland penny <[hidden email]>:
> > On 26/12/15 17:08, HAT wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm testing samba 4.3.3 vfs_fruit on Fedora rawhide.
> >>
> >> The EAs are not seen from clients yet.
> >>
> >> smb.conf:
> >>        path = /export/test1/
> >>        writable = yes
> >>        vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
> >>        fruit:locking = netatalk
> >>        fruit:encoding = native
> >>        streams_xattr:prefix = user.
> >>        streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
> >
> > Is that your entire smb.conf or just the share ?
>
> $ /etc/samba# cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | grep -v \; | grep -v \# | grep -v ^$
> [global]
>         workgroup = LOCALNET
>         server string = %h
>         dos charset = CP932
>         log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
>         max log size = 50
>         security = user
>         passdb backend = smbpasswd
>         load printers = yes
>         cups options = raw

you need "ea support = yes".

-Ralph

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

Rowland penny-7
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On 26/12/15 17:33, HAT wrote:

> Sat, 26 Dec 2015 17:22:56 +0000, Rowland penny <[hidden email]>:
>> On 26/12/15 17:08, HAT wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm testing samba 4.3.3 vfs_fruit on Fedora rawhide.
>>>
>>> The EAs are not seen from clients yet.
>>>
>>> smb.conf:
>>>         path = /export/test1/
>>>         writable = yes
>>>         vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
>>>         fruit:locking = netatalk
>>>         fruit:encoding = native
>>>         streams_xattr:prefix = user.
>>>         streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
>> Is that your entire smb.conf or just the share ?
> $ /etc/samba# cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | grep -v \; | grep -v \# | grep -v ^$
> [global]
>          workgroup = LOCALNET
>          server string = %h
>          dos charset = CP932
>          log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
>          max log size = 50
>          security = user
>          passdb backend = smbpasswd
>          load printers = yes
>          cups options = raw
> [Test 1]
>        path = /export/test1/
>        writable = yes
>        vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
>        fruit:locking = netatalk
>        fruit:encoding = native
>        streams_xattr:prefix = user.
>        streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
>

OK, so you are trying to connect from apple clients to a share on a
Samba standalone server, do your apple users exist as Unix & Samba users
on the Samba server?

Rowland


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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

HAT
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> you need "ea support = yes".

ok! solved.

On Fedora: -----------------------------------------------------

$ cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | grep -v \; | grep -v \# | grep -v ^$
[global]
        workgroup = LOCALNET
        server string = %h
        dos charset = CP932
        log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
        max log size = 50
        security = user
        passdb backend = smbpasswd
        load printers = yes
        cups options = raw
[Test 1]
      path = /export/test1/
      writable = yes
      vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
      fruit:locking = netatalk
      fruit:encoding = native
      streams_xattr:prefix = user.
      streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
      ea support = yes

$ getfattr ICONandEA.txt
# file: ICONandEA.txt
user.com.apple.TextEncoding
user.com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment
user.org.netatalk.Metadata

On OS X: --------------------------------------------------------

$ xattr ICONandEA.txt
com.apple.FinderInfo
com.apple.ResourceFork
com.apple.TextEncoding
org.netatalk.Metadata
com.apple.metadata:kMDItemFinderComment

On Windows 7: ---------------------------------------------------------

Z:\>dir /r ICONandEA.txt
 Volume in drive Z is Test 1
 Volume Serial Number is DA11-AA00

 Directory of Z:\

2010/01/10  00:14               225 ICONandEA.txt
                                 60 ICONandEA.txt:AFP_AfpInfo:$DATA
                              4,764 ICONandEA.txt:AFP_Resource:$DATA
                                 15 ICONandEA.txt:com.apple.TextEncoding:$DATA
                                401 ICONandEA.txt:org.netatalk.Metadata:$DATA
                                 81 ICONandEA.txt:com.apple.metadata?kMDItemFinderComment:$DATA
               1 File(s)            225 bytes
               0 Dir(s)  59,059,187,712 bytes free

---------------------------------------------------------

I'm going to test "ea = samba" of netatalk 3.1.8dev.

Thanks.

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Re: vfs_fruit: xattr imcompatible with netatalk

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>> [global]
>>          workgroup = LOCALNET
>>          server string = %h
>>          dos charset = CP932
>>          log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
>>          max log size = 50
>>          security = user
>>          passdb backend = smbpasswd
>>          load printers = yes
>>          cups options = raw
>> [Test 1]
>>        path = /export/test1/
>>        writable = yes
>>        vfs objects = catia fruit streams_xattr
>>        fruit:locking = netatalk
>>        fruit:encoding = native
>>        streams_xattr:prefix = user.
>>        streams_xattr:store_stream_type = no
>>
>
> OK, so you are trying to connect from apple clients to a share on a
> Samba standalone server, do your apple users exist as Unix & Samba
> users on the Samba server?

Yes.
If no, I can't test this.
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